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What’s happening with MH17?

Posted: July 20, 2014 in Media

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mh17.kf007.cold.war.reagan.ukraine.russia.ussr_occupycorporatismSusanne Posel ,Chief Editor Occupy Corporatism | The US Independent
July 18, 2014

Over 30 years ago a Korean flight that was shot down by Russian military forces was used to justify the Cold War between the US and the former USSR. Today, a new flight and a new scenario nearly mirrors exactly the plotline developed over a generation ago – perhaps to justify another Cold War yet to come.

Reports have been flooding the internet regarding Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 that was “flying through open airspace” at the time it crashed – or was shot down; depending on which report is to be believed.

Apparent leaked telephone conversations in initial reports about the downed plane claimed that “rebels” were responsible for the “surface-to-air attack on” MH17.

In the media the tragedy is being blamed on Russian military forces based on a comment made by Commander Igor Bezler who allegedly stated “his crew had shot down a plane, and that bodies were falling onto the ground some distance from the actual plane debris.”

However, this report is hearsay because Bezler was actually recounting a version of the story relayed to him by someone unidentified person at the scene because Belzer had not seen the wreckage first hand at the time of the interview.

Journalist Noah Sneider tweeted : “At crash site of #MH17. Bodies everywhere, organs splayed out. Too gruesome to post photographs. This is an absolute disaster.”

More anonymous claims in initial reports say “the plane exploded mid-air” which lends to the story formulating that somehow Russian military forces shot down MH17.

According to US media, unnamed US intelligence officials “confirmed” that MH17 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile; however there is apparent debate over whether or not the “shot” was fired by Russia or the Ukraine.

Senator John McCain, member of the Council for National Policy and co-author of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, threatened there would be “incredible repercussions” if Russian forces or pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine shot down the Malaysian flight.

McCain said: “This was an airliner headed towards Russian airspace and it has the earmarks — and I’m not concluding — but it has the earmarks of a mistaken identification of an aircraft that they may have believed was Ukrainian. If that’s true, this is a horrible tragic event which was certainly unanticipated by anybody no matter who they are. And there will be incredible repercussions if this is the case. If it is the result of either separatist or Russian actions mistakenly believing that this is a Ukrainian warplane, I think there’s going to be hell to pay and there should be.”

In the wake of this “disaster” and the 100 passengers who were scheduled to attend a conference on AIDS in Melbourne that are reported to have died, there is little talk about how history is repeating itself.

10513327_4358782983223_3657567655768971189_nBack in 1983 the shooting down of Korean Flight 007sparked the Cold War between the Reagan administration and the then USSR president Mikhail Gorbachev.

KF007 was the catalyst that was used to begin the most nerve-racking time in modern history – when the US and the USSR could begin a nuclear war with each other at any time.

Thirty-one years ago, Korean Airlines Boeing 747, flight 007, was shot down by a Soviet SU-15 interceptor just outside the Moneron Island in the Sea of Japan.

This strike killed all 269 passengers aboard KF007 – only 26 passengers less than the number of accounted dead from MH17.

Then President Reagan told the nation in a formal address: “Despite the savagery of their crime, the universal reaction against it, and the evidence of their complicity, the Soviets still refuse to tell the truth. They have persistently refused to admit that their pilot fired on the Korean aircraft. Indeed, they’ve not even told their own people that a plane was shot down.”

Reagan continued: “They have spun a confused tale of tracking the plane by radar until it just mysteriously disappeared from their radar screens, but no one fired a shot of any kind. But then they coupled this with charges that it was a spy plane sent by us and that their planes fired tracer bullets past the plane as a warning that it was in Soviet airspace.”

Former US Senator Bob Dole appeared on Meet the Press to suggest that sanctions be used against Russia for their crime.

At the time, KF007 was used as a confusion point for the general public because of “opposing views” that left the incident unresolved.

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#15 – Dissecting the Fake Intercept Disseminated by SBU (Ukrainian Security Service)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E8kDo2n6g

Note: Half of the Post Translated; The Remaining Half is Speculative
Complete Original of the Post (in Russian) Can Be Found at Eugene-DF LiveJournal

In the disseminated intercept, the place from which the missile was allegedly launched is clearly indicated: the checkpoint at the settlement of Chernukhino.

Pay close attention at the Alleged Map of the MH17 Catastrophe.

As you can see, the distance from the point of launch to the point of the fall is 37 kilometres. At the same time, the elevation of the plane was 10-11 kilometres. For the Russian BUK M2 this distance is, in fact, achievable (although with a very important caveat discussed below).

However, Ukraine does not, and cannot, have modern digital high-tech Anti-Aircraft systems in its arsenal. What it does have, at…

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THE DAY OF THE MALAYSIA AIRLINES PLANE CRASH

The United States on Friday began building a circumstantial case against Russia for the downing of a Malaysian airliner, as President Obama saidRussian supplies of sophisticated weapons to Ukrainian separatists were “not an accident.”
Confirming widespread reports of preliminary U.S. conclusions, Obama said the plane “was shot down” Thursday by a surface-to-air missile fired from separatist territory. All 298 aboard, including one U.S. citizen, were killed.

Obama stopped short of publicly accusing the separatists, or their Russian patrons, of pulling the trigger. But he left little doubt whom he believed was to blame for what he called “an outrage of unspeakable proportions.”

As an international inquiry was organized, and investigators struggled to reach the wreckage and bodies strewn across fields of wheat and sunflowers in separatist-held territory, Obama said Russian President Vladi­mir Putin has the power to end the escalating violence in Ukraine.

“If Mr. Putin makes a decision that we are not going to allow heavy armaments and the flow of fighters . . . across the Ukrainian-Russian border, then it will stop,” he said in remarks at the White House. “He has the most control over that situation, and so far, at least, he has not exercised it.”

Senior aides added elements to the administration’s case throughout the day. At an emergency U.N. Security Council meeting in New York, U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power said a Russian-made SA-11 missile system, easily capable of reaching the plane that was flying at 33,000 feet, had been spotted in the area of the shoot-down. Because of the system’s “technical complexity,” she said, “it is impossible to rule out Russian technical assistance” to separatists operating it.

Separatist leaders, who have downed several Ukrainian military aircraft in recent days, had “boasted” on social media about Thursday’s shoot-down “but later deleted those messages,” Power said. “Russia can end this war. Russia must end this war,” she said.

“Whether it was a Russian military unit that did it or it was a separatist unit . . . we don’t know,” Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said at a briefing. He noted that Russia has up to 12,000 troops deployed on its side of the border with Ukraine.

Privately, U.S. officials said intelligence assessments, based on weapons believed to be in separatist hands and the tracked location of the launch site, had concluded that separatists fired the missile, although it was unclear whether they knew their target was a commercial airliner.

One of the strongest public statements came from Britain, which lost 10 citizens aboard the flight. A statement released by Prime Minister David Cameron’s office said “it is increasingly likely that [the Malaysian airliner] was shot down by a separatist missile.”

Russia said it welcomed an investigation by the United Nations’ International Civil Aviation Organization but responded sharply to the thinly veiled U.S. accusations of at least indirect responsibility for the shoot-down.

Obama should “stop lecturing Russia” and force the Western-backed Ukrainian government to seriously engage in negotiations with the separatists, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.


Aviation history is littered with civilian planes that were shot from the sky, intentionally or not, by military weapons. Malaysia Flight 17 was cruising at 33,000 feet, more than half a mile higher than Mt. Everest, when a missile hit it July 17. And the missile’s range is believed to be more than twice that high.

At the U.N., Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin criticized those he said were “trying to prejudge the outcome [of an investigation] with broad statements and insinuations” and accused the Ukrainian government of failing to warn international aviation to avoid the conflict area.

By continuing its military offensive to dislodge the separatists, Ukraine “chose the wrong path, and their Western colleagues supported them,” Churkin said. “I’m talking about the United States; they actually pushed them to escalate,” he said, and now “they are trying to lay the blame on Russia.”

A spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry said none of its sophisticated antiaircraft systems, or any other weaponry in service with the Russian armed forces, had crossed the border into Ukraine, Itar-Tass reported from Moscow.

Amid the official statements and allegations came the now-familiar accoutrements of international tragedy — the laying of flowers at embassies and in hometowns, candlelight vigils and the signing of condolence books.

The one U.S. citizen known to be aboard the flight, Dutch dual-nationalQuinn Lucas Schansman, 19, was traveling on the Malaysian flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur to meet his family for a vacation.

Three Australian siblings, ages 12, 10 and 8, returning home with their grandfather from a vacation were among the 80 children the United Nations said were aboard the flight. Power, in her Security Council speech, said three children had the letter “I” next to their names on the flight manifest, indicating they were infants.

Two-thirds of the passengers were from the Netherlands, where grieving relatives gathered at Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport. A large but undetermined number of the dead were international AIDS researchers traveling to a conference in Australia.

Referring to the researchers, Obama said that “in this world today, we shouldn’t forget that in the midst of conflict and killing, there are people like these — people who are focused on what can be built rather than what can be destroyed. People who are focused on how they can help people that they’ve never met. People who define themselves not by what makes them different from other people but by the humanity that we hold in common . . . and it’s time for us to heed their example.”

Although statements by the United States, and others such as Britain, grew harsher as the day progressed Friday, it was unclear what the administration proposed to do once responsibility for the attack was firmly established, and who would be with it.

“This should snap everybody’s heads to attention and make sure that we don’t have time for propaganda, we don’t have time for games. We need to know exactly what happened, and everybody needs to make sure that we’re holding accountable those who — who committed this outrage,” Obama said. He said he saw no U.S. military role in the conflict.

Several governments represented at the Security Council meeting limited themselves to expressing shock and sympathy over the dead. China cautioned member nations not to “jump to any conclusions . . . or trade accusations.”

German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Friday pressed Russia to work harder toward a political solution in Ukraine. But she also drew a line between the Russians and the separatists, saying that “the Russian president of course has an influence,” but “still one has to differentiate between the separatists and the Russian government.”

On Wednesday, both the United States and the European Union imposed new sanctions on Russia, but the European moves were significantly less stinging. Suggesting Friday that she was in no rush to go further, Merkel called Wednesday’s move “an adequate response to what happened in the past few days,” although she noted that the European decision had left open the door to “act on a new level” if necessary.

European governments have generally been more reluctant than the Americans to slap tougher sanctions on the Russians largely because of Moscow’s economic clout in the region. Some analysts suggested that the desire of Europeans to sidestep truly forceful sanctions to protect their economies should not be underestimated.

But should the separatists, with direct or indirect Russian aid, be conclusively proved responsible for the shoot-down, others said the calculations in the region might change.

“It’s a game-changer because it’s very difficult to see how anyone in Europe can continue business as usual,” said Jonathan Eyal, director of international security studies at the Royal United Services Institute in London. “This time we have our own European casualties. It’s not a theoretical conflict in which people we do not know are dying.”

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